Todd Cordell: Calgary Flames: On Sean Monahan's Seven-Year Extension

Love the deal! Just wish it was 8 years. Now he has to live up to it. I think he will!

Now BT get Johnny done!!!

I haven't seen Mony look like he is a flash in the pan. Like JG, he is a skilled player and barring any major injuries he looks to be a solid 1st line center who will eventually be the teams captain. If they get JG for a similar term (more $$$ of course) that would be great!!

Great deal, fair for both sides, and nice to know we've got Mony locked up long term.

I think Monahan's defensive game is going to improve dramatically over the next couple of seasons, which can turn this from a great deal into an absolute steal really quickly.

Now we just need Johnny and we're good to go for next season.

It's probably the worst contract that the young new superstars signed this summer, which is saying something because it's still a pretty alright contract for the Flames.

How did not one of Barkov, Mackinnon, Forsberg, Scheifele, or Monahan not get their team to massively overpay?

It's probably the worst contract that the young new superstars signed this summer, which is saying something because it's still a pretty alright contract for the Flames.

How did not one of Barkov, Mackinnon, Forsberg, Scheifele, or Monahan not get their team to massively overpay?
- Hunkulese

My take is quite simple...

For any contract of that length n money MUST mean perennial playoffs.
Gaudreau is the straw that stirs the drink IMO.
Heavy responsibility is now on Monahans shoulders.
The Pacific division has tough match ups at 1C.
He has room to improve with next season being an acid test.
He can do it but its a challenge indeed.

It's probably the worst contract that the young new superstars signed this summer, which is saying something because it's still a pretty alright contract for the Flames.

How did not one of Barkov, Mackinnon, Forsberg, Scheifele, or Monahan not get their team to massively overpay?
- Hunkulese

How do you figure it's the worse? Monahan has led all players in scoring from his draft class. BT did well with this contract.
Monahan is only going to get better as he matures, he may be streaky but so was Iginla.

How do you figure it's the worse? Monahan has led all players in scoring from his draft class. BT did well with this contract.
Monahan is only going to get better as he matures, he may be streaky but so was Iginla.
- K-man25

Because I think everyone else I name is better than Monahan. Points aren't the best way to rank players. If you play with Gaudreau every night, and you're in a system where the defence is encouraged to jump into the play as much as possible, points are going to come a little easier. He also doesn't dominate the play as much as the other guys and far too often last year he was invisible on the ice. The few times Gaudreau and Monahan were split up, Monahan wasn't able to elevate anyone to his level.

Saying all that, I still think he's a great player and the fact that he's so comfortable with Gaudreau means something. I also saw his game take a step forward at the very end of last year and if he can keep that up, he has a good shot at catching the other guys. I'm happy the Flames locked him up, I just don't think he should be making more than them.

Because I think everyone else I name is better than Monahan. Points aren't the best way to rank players. If you play with Gaudreau every night, and you're in a system where the defence is encouraged to jump into the play as much as possible, points are going to come a little easier. He also doesn't dominate the play as much as the other guys and far too often last year he was invisible on the ice. The few times Gaudreau and Monahan were split up, Monahan wasn't able to elevate anyone to his level.

Saying all that, I still think he's a great player and the fact that he's so comfortable with Gaudreau means something. I also saw his game take a step forward at the very end of last year and if he can keep that up, he has a good shot at catching the other guys. I'm happy the Flames locked him up, I just don't think he should be making more than them.
- Hunkulese

Every other team in the league would pay him that or more!

Every other team in the league would pay him that or more!
- Clyde334

That's not the point.

Because I think everyone else I name is better than Monahan. Points aren't the best way to rank players. If you play with Gaudreau every night, and you're in a system where the defence is encouraged to jump into the play as much as possible, points are going to come a little easier. He also doesn't dominate the play as much as the other guys and far too often last year he was invisible on the ice. The few times Gaudreau and Monahan were split up, Monahan wasn't able to elevate anyone to his level.

Saying all that, I still think he's a great player and the fact that he's so comfortable with Gaudreau means something. I also saw his game take a step forward at the very end of last year and if he can keep that up, he has a good shot at catching the other guys. I'm happy the Flames locked him up, I just don't think he should be making more than them.
- Hunkulese

Seems like each player brings their own strengths. Hard to say who is "better".

Mony is the best faceoff guy of the group in my opinion. He definitely had MacKinnon's number last year when they faced off against one another.

Then again, Sheifele found around a 60 goal pace for the last third of last season. He picks up on that pace for most of this upcoming season and we're looking at the best of the group.

It's probably the worst contract that the young new superstars signed this summer, which is saying something because it's still a pretty alright contract for the Flames.

How did not one of Barkov, Mackinnon, Forsberg, Scheifele, or Monahan not get their team to massively overpay?
- Hunkulese

Generally players are paid primarily based on offensive numbers ...when yours are better than everyone you named then you get paid accordingly ...pretty simple

Because I think everyone else I name is better than Monahan. Points aren't the best way to rank players. If you play with Gaudreau every night, and you're in a system where the defence is encouraged to jump into the play as much as possible, points are going to come a little easier. He also doesn't dominate the play as much as the other guys and far too often last year he was invisible on the ice. The few times Gaudreau and Monahan were split up, Monahan wasn't able to elevate anyone to his level.

Saying all that, I still think he's a great player and the fact that he's so comfortable with Gaudreau means something. I also saw his game take a step forward at the very end of last year and if he can keep that up, he has a good shot at catching the other guys. I'm happy the Flames locked him up, I just don't think he should be making more than them.
- Hunkulese

I've heard this comment on Monahan not being able to elevate his linemates when not playing with Johnny a few times but I can't really remember too many fakes where they were apart ...how much did this actually happen and who were his linemates ?

I've heard this comment on Monahan not being able to elevate his linemates when not playing with Johnny a few times but I can't really remember too many fakes where they were apart ...how much did this actually happen and who were his linemates ?
- Redmile247

Actually, it looks like Monahan was pretty important for Gaudreau. Gaudreau didn't get a single regulation point last year when he wasn't on a line with Monahan. The only points Gaudreau scored without Monahan were in over time, while Monahan had 5 points playing without Gaudreau.

Actually, it looks like Monahan was pretty important for Gaudreau. Gaudreau didn't get a single regulation point last year when he wasn't on a line with Monahan. The only points Gaudreau scored without Monahan were in over time, while Monahan had 5 points playing without Gaudreau.
- Hunkulese

I would still argue that Johnny helps monny more than the opposite I think

Last season the flames wanted johnny to shoot more and he seemed to be doing so ...might not be that much of a coincidence that monny's goal total dropped

Because I think everyone else I name is better than Monahan. Points aren't the best way to rank players. If you play with Gaudreau every night, and you're in a system where the defence is encouraged to jump into the play as much as possible, points are going to come a little easier. He also doesn't dominate the play as much as the other guys and far too often last year he was invisible on the ice. The few times Gaudreau and Monahan were split up, Monahan wasn't able to elevate anyone to his level.

Saying all that, I still think he's a great player and the fact that he's so comfortable with Gaudreau means something. I also saw his game take a step forward at the very end of last year and if he can keep that up, he has a good shot at catching the other guys. I'm happy the Flames locked him up, I just don't think he should be making more than them.
- Hunkulese

Well that's definitely 5 top young players. If I was a gm and picking to start a team would probably take Mac first, because of all the hype, talent etc... But after that?

Monahan might be the next player to build around, Barkov, Forsberg, no. Maybe Shef. Lots of potential for all, but I wouldn't call Monahan 5th of 5!

Actually, it looks like Monahan was pretty important for Gaudreau. Gaudreau didn't get a single regulation point last year when he wasn't on a line with Monahan. The only points Gaudreau scored without Monahan were in over time, while Monahan had 5 points playing without Gaudreau.
- Hunkulese

We see that if players play enough together as these 2 they develope chemistry. Used to see lots of great line combination in the old days. Now every coach thinks he has to throw the players in a blender to change things up!

[quote=K-man25]
Since the draft and as of today SM is the dude. Period!

Remember what team SM played on in Junior and what team Mac played on...

Since the draft and as of today SM is the dude. Period!

Remember what team SM played on in Junior and what team Mac played on...
- Clyde334

The dude...loved that movie!
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Mony scored 20 in this league before JG was even in the NHL...so the theory he only scores because of his line mate can EAD

Guy handles himself going up against the best centers in the league night after night and still put up 80 goals in his first 3 seasons...go find the list of guys who have done that, its a very short one. Guy is low key and sometimes doesn't get the hype some of the others do.

Mony scored 20 in this league before JG was even in the NHL...so the theory he only scores because of his line mate can EAD

Guy handles himself going up against the best centers in the league night after night and still put up 80 goals in his first 3 seasons...go find the list of guys who have done that, its a very short one. Guy is low key and sometimes doesn't get the hype some of the others do.
- flashfire

Yup!

anyone who is complaining that it should have been 8 years (same goes with the MacKinnon deal), hopefully they do realize if it was 8 years then his cap would have been slightly higher as they would have to buy another year of prime UFA years. Also the CBA runs out in 2022, its smart business to have him only signed 1 year past the CBA...over 2 years is tricky since no one knows if there will be a lock out or what the new CBA will bring.

With Johnny still to be signed, plus Freddie, and still have flexibility to sign a guy off a PTO if they need it (or add another guy later)...going 8 years might hurt that flexibility being pushed up so tight against the cap this season

7 Years is just smart business

Hell of a good deal for you guys. We're gonna have some epic Battles of Alberta once again very soon! It'll be nice to see these franchises climb out of the basement this year.

Mony scored 20 in this league before JG was even in the NHL...so the theory he only scores because of his line mate can EAD

Guy handles himself going up against the best centers in the league night after night and still put up 80 goals in his first 3 seasons...go find the list of guys who have done that, its a very short one. Guy is low key and sometimes doesn't get the hype some of the others do.
- flashfire

No one is saying that he's not a good player or able to score without Gaudreau, but his numbers are inflated playing in the system the Flames were playing and getting to play with Gaudreau. Do you really think he would have scored 60 goals the last 2 years playing on a line with Bouma and Colborne? Since contracts are still given out almost entirely based off of goals and assists, it's an important point to bring up.

No one is saying that he's not a good player or able to score without Gaudreau, but his numbers are inflated playing in the system the Flames were playing and getting to play with Gaudreau. Do you really think he would have scored 60 goals the last 2 years playing on a line with Bouma and Colborne? Since contracts are still given out almost entirely based off of goals and assists, it's an important point to bring up.
- Hunkulese

Stop!!! Just stop dude!! You sound ridiculous.